How Did Jesus Argue?

An excellent example and description of presuppositional apologetics

Joel Settecase's avatarJOEL M. SETTECASE

Jesus was a master of apologetics (what John Frame calls “the theological discipline that defends the truth of the Christian message). Of course, He is the Master of everything, so it makes sense that He would defend truth in a masterful way. In the New Testament, there are many examples of Jesus engaging with His opponents in apologetical discussions. A brilliant example of this is found in Mark 3:22-30:

The scribes who had come down from Jerusalem said, “He has Beelzebul in Him!” and, “He drives out demons by the ruler of the demons!”

So He summoned them and spoke to them in parables: “How can Satan drive out Satan? If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. And if Satan rebels against himself and is divided, he cannot stand but is finished!

“On the other hand, no one can enter a…

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What if there’s a power outage at Hillsong?

. . .or any other ‘church’ where the big attraction is the music?

Think about that for a minute. I know Christians who choose a church based on how much they like the ‘worship’ music, and I’m sure you do also. But what if the power went out and there were no more electric instruments, lights, smoke, etc.? All we would have left are lyrics.

If all we have left are the lyrics, would we ‘feel’ the Spirit come down, or is all that excitement generated from the stage and those great ‘worship’ feelings pretty much the same as a good U2 concert (name your band)? Is today’s ‘worship’ more about us than God?

And if all we have are the lyrics, what are they saying and teaching? Something to think about.

Fighting For The Faith discussed that very thing – lyrics – this last week titled “Heresy Hiding in Plain Sight” .

Enjoy, or not. The segment discusses some of the lyrics to specific worship songs from Hillsong. Protect your toes.

Discernment Troubles?

In the facility where I work there is a Wednesday lunch time fellowship/Bible study. I am not a frequent Visitor, for a variety of reasons, but I’m on the distribution list the study facilitator maintains and I receive the Wednesday morning announcements confirming that it will indeed take place, along with the topic of discussion. Yesterday morning I received this one:

“Today, we’ll continue our new study of Psalm 91: God’s Umbrella of Protection, from the book by Peggy Joyce Ruth. We’ll look at Chapter 2 which looks at verse 2, “I will say to the Lord, ‘My refuge and my fortress, My God, in whom I trust!’” Peggy says to circle the word ‘say’ in verse 2 in your Bible, “because we must learn to verbalize our trust.” She believes that the more we say verses 1 and 2 out loud, “the more confident we become in His protection.” Do you believe as she does? Bring examples of when speaking Scripture out loud boosted your confidence. Peggy also says that in times of trouble, “Take notice of what flies out of your mouth.” “The worst thing that can happen is for something to come out that brings death. Cursing gives God nothing to work with. This Psalm tells us to do just the opposite – to speak life!” What comes out of your mouth in times of trouble, death or life? I think this will be a great day of discussion. See you at noon! Bring your lunch.”

The first questions that came to mind were 1) Who is Peggy Joyce Ruth? 2) Am I looking at Word of Faith (ala Kenneth Copeland) teaching? And 3) Is Psalm 91 really about our needing to “verbalize our trust”?

1) Peggy Joyce Ruth. Well, at first I couldn’t find out a lot about Peggy Joyce Ruth other than a short bio on her ministry website and a few transcripts of interviews with Sid Roth, of “It’s Supernatural” fame. It seems that she spent about eight years in psychological torment, including electric shock treatments, received the Baptism of the Holy Spirit at a Pepsi Cola meeting in New Orleans, had peace for two years and the spirit of fear came back to torment her again.

Then one night God appeared to her in a prophetic dream/vision one night and spoke to her audibly and said ‘‘in your day of trouble call on Me, and I will answer.’ To make a long story short, she said this was God leading her to Psalm 91, which she has been studying for about thirty years while receiving ‘divine’ insight to its meaning. She now has published a series of books about Psalm 91, with editions for toddlers, youth, teens, mothers, and military members (regular and pocket sized editions), as well as a collection of testimonies of those who come through some really tough stuff and were miraculously delivered thanks to clinging to the promises of Psalm 91 and quoting it a lot.

2) The Kenneth Copeland Connection. A day after looking into her ‘ministry’ and reading Sid Roth Interviews I discovered the August 2015 edition of Kenneth Copeland’s Believer’s Voice of Victory magazine. She was the cover story for that edition and there was a lengthy article about her inside which focused more on all of the ‘taking spiritual authority over demons and dark forces’, as is to be expected from Kenneth Copeland. While Sid Roth was all about the “Supernatural”, Kenneth Copeland was all about “taking authority”.

3) Psalm 91. The other thing I did was read Psalm 91 again to see if it was teaching anywhere that we “must speak/verbalize” Psalm 91 to see miraculous deliverance(s) when we are in a pickle. (Especially verse 2, the crux of Ms Ruth’s ‘divine’ revelation). Turns out from my plain reading in context and ALL of the commentaries I consulted (10 or so); Ms. Ruth’s teaching is nowhere to be found. The Psalm certainly promised divine protection for those who trust in the Lord, in all manner of circumstances, but no way does it teach any “Word/Faith” techniques/practices.

Discernment Troubles?

All this brings us to the crux of this post – discernment. You see, after my initial questions and first round of research, I sent an email to the Wednesday Bible study facilitator with my concerns:

“It might be profitable to actually examine Ps 91:2 to see if it is actually teaching “we must learn to verbalize our trust”, or is it an expression of a heart sentiment, knowing and trusting that God is a refuge and strength. Don’t take my word for it. Here is a link to several commentaries concerning Psalm 91:2.

http://biblehub.com/commentaries/psalms/91-2.htm

This a wonderful Psalm concerning God’s protection in all the circumstances and storms of life, and one in which we can take great solace and comfort, but is it really teaching about personally verbalizing a passage for better confidence. Personally, the more I read and study scripture the more confidence I have in its truth. In this case, reading and studying other passages that speak about God’s protection for his children will go much farther in that regard.”

I received a hearty “Thanks for your input!” reply and sent another short email asking if anyone had looked into Peggy Joyce’s credentials as a Bible teacher. Here is the reply from my friend:

“I did a little bit and nothing jumped out as questionable.”

At that point, and mostly because I had not been attending the Bible study and been part of the process in selecting something new after the previous topic being discussed, I could only wonder why my friend found nothing questionable about this woman’s teaching if he had looked into her. Was it because his ‘little bit’ of investigating was very, very little, or he found the same stuff I had found (since there was little to find anyway) and was clueless concerning bad doctrine? Did he get sucked in by the novelty of new revelation that was pleasing to itching ears? What?

This is not a personal criticism, but rather an observation. After all, my friend might have a LOT of company. While I am sure that there is a certain amount of truth in Ruth’s books and teachings, I am equally sure that lies always ride in on the horseback of truth. I don’t remember when I first heard it or who said it, but someone said that sound discernment isn’t so much knowing the difference between truth and lies, but it’s being able to tell the difference between truth and ‘almost’ truth. Perhaps he was right.

On the other hand, maybe the disease technically termed “itchingearitis” causes the desire for plain Biblical truth (inherent in the new heart of a believer) to fly out the window. If that’s an accurate statement, there is a single and 100% effective solution for that believer. Read the Book for what it says, and be cautious concerning ‘extra’ material. First and foremost, let scripture interpret scripture. When we do that, our ears become sensitive to little clues that something might be amiss, and are less susceptible to being tickled.

Yes, I would say that ‘discernment troubles’ abound in the ranks of professing Christians, given the amount of very questionable ‘teaching’ these days.

And remember. . .lies come prancing in on the horseback of truth.

Paul Washer “A Living and Holy Sacrifice”: Romans 12:1-2

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Paul Washer

What can I say about Paul Washer? For those of you who are not familiar with him, he is married to his wife Charo and they both have three children: Ian, Evan, and Rowan.  Paul Washer is also a graduate of Southwestern Theological Seminary, a missionary at Peru for 10 years, a current laborer at HeartCry Missionary Society, and a itinerant preacher.  It seems that people’s awareness of him can be traced to his well-known “Shocking Youth Message” that now has over 1 million views on YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cncEhCvrVgQ).  It was that message that catapulted him to the spotlight.

To those who have listened to him, it appears that he is either a stench of death to some or a sweet smelling aroma.  As for me, he is a sweet smelling aroma.  His gospel-centered messages have impacted me during my young life as a Christian and continues to do so.  We…

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The Gospel–A Manifestation of God’s Glory.

Having lost its grip on the biblical gospel, the church has bartered that priceless treasure for a pot of fool’s gold. We have all but eliminated any idea that salvation involves a thorough …

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The Church’s Chief End

An Article by Peter Barnes, From The Banner of Truth

There  is  much  debate  in  the  modern  church  about  what  exactly  is  her  mission.  Often  the  answer  that  is  given  is  not  so  much  wrong  as  lop-sided,  and  exaggerated  implications  and  conclusions  are  drawn  from  that.  There  are  probably  three  main  views:  the  Church  exists  to  glorify  God;  the  Church  exists  to  build  up  the  saints;  and  the  Church  exists  for  mission,  to  evangelize  the  world.  These  three  views  should  not  be  played  off  against  one  another,  and  a  grasp  of  each  one  will  prevent  us  from  misinterpreting  any  one  of  them.

The  Church’s  first  task,  surely,  is  to  glorify  God.  Paul  says  that  ‘whether  you  eat  or  drink,  or  whatever  you  do,  do  all  to  the  glory  of  God’  (1 Cor.10:31).  Earlier  in  1 Corinthians,  Paul  had  said,  in  the  context  of  sexual  ethics,  that  we  are  to  glorify  God  in  our  bodies  (1 Cor.6:20).  The  unbeliever  is  meant  to  see  the  good  deeds  of  the  Christian  and  go  on  to  glorify  God  (1 Pet.2:12).  The  Psalmist  tells  us  of  God’s  attributes  and  character  in  such  a  way  that  we  are  meant  to  glorify  and  worship  our  creator  and  Lord:  ‘Your  righteousness,  O  God,  reaches  the  high  heavens. You  who  have  done  great  things,  O  God,  who  is  like  You?’  (Ps.71:19)

In  fact,  ‘Great  is  the  Lord,  and  greatly  to  be  praised,  and  His  greatness  is  unsearchable’  (Psalm 145:3).  This  is  to  be  reflected  in  our  meetings  together.  They  are  not  just  to  be  where  we  are  encouraged  or  learn  something  that  is  handy  for  daily  living.  The  priority  is  not  that  we  ‘get  something’  out  of  the  service.  Rather,  it  is  that  God  is  glorified  with  true  adoration  and  praise.  Paul  holds  out  the  hope  that  an  unbeliever  or  outsider  might  enter  the  meeting,  and  be  convicted  and  called to  account.  The  secrets  of  his  heart  are disclosed,  and  so,  falling  on  his  face,  he  will  worship  God  and  declare  that  He  is  present  (1 Cor.14:24-25).  Fellowship  is  to  be  found  amongst  Christians,  yes,  but  also  with  the  Father  and  the  Son,  Jesus  Christ  (1 John 1:3).  This  takes  us  out  of  ourselves  when  we  pray,  we  hear  the  Word  of  God,  and  we  sing  His  praises.  We  are  meant  to  be  glorifying  God  more  than  satisfying  our  needs.  There  is  an  ever-present  danger  that  expedience  or  the  desire  to  be  relevant  may  entice  us  to  follow  Nadab  and  Abihu  in  offering  up  profane  fire  to  the  Lord  (see  Lev.10:1-3).  The  Psalmist’s  perspective  must  be  a  constant  corrective:  ‘Not  to  us,  O  Lord,  not  to  us,  but  to  Your  name  give  glory,  for  the  sake  of  Your  steadfast  love  and  Your  faithfulness’  (Ps.115:1).

The  Church’s  second  task  is  to  edify  the  saints.  Dietrich  Bonhoeffer  declared  that  ‘The  essence  of  the  church  is  not  to  practice  theology  but  to  believe  and  obey  the  word  of  God.’  Christopher  Ash  interprets  Bonhoeffer  to  mean  that  the  Church’s  task  is  to  build  itself  up  by  the  Word  of  God.  In  Ash’s  words:  ‘We  reach  the  world  by  preaching  to  the  church.’  Certainly,  the  New  Testament  places  much  emphasis  on  the  spiritual  growth  of  those  who  are  Christians.  For  example,  in  the  epistles  at  least,  Paul  prays  more  frequently  for  the  sanctification  of  those  who  are  professing  Christians  than  he  does  for  the  conversion  of  those  who  are  not  (e.g.  Eph.1:15-23;  3:14-21;  Phil.1:3-11;  Col.1:9-12;  2 Thess.1:3).  In  keeping  with  this  approach,  Paul  was  concerned  that  all  Christians  would  see  the  progress  in  Timothy  (1 Tim.4:15).

In  Jeremiah’s  day,  God  promised  a  repentant  people:  ‘I  will  give  you  shepherds  after  My  own  heart,  who  will  feed  you  with  knowledge  and understanding’  (Jer.3:15).  Jesus   told  a  restored  Peter  that  his  task  was  to  feed  the  sheep  (John 21:15-17).  Part  of  meeting  together  is  to  stir  up  one  another  to  love  and  good  works  (Heb.10:24-25).  Christ  gives  gifts  to  His  people  in  order  ‘to  equip  the  saints  for  the  work  of  ministry,  for  building  up  the  body  of  Christ’  (Eph.4:12).

The  third  task  is  to  evangelize  the  world.  In  1839  Alexander  Duff  preached  at  the  ordination  service  of  Thomas  Smith,  who  was  leaving  for  work  in  India,  from  where  Duff  had  just  come  and  to  where  he  was  just  returning.  The  sermon  was  published  with  the  title  ‘Missions  the  Chief  End  of  the  Christian  Church’.  It  was  based  on  Psalm  67:1-2  (which  the  published  edition  mistakenly  identified  as  Psalm 47:1-2):  ‘God  be  merciful  unto  us,  and  bless  us;  and  cause  his  face  to  shine  upon  us.  That  thy  way  may  be  known  upon  earth,  thy  saving  health  among  all  nations.’  Duff’s  opening  sentence  was:  ‘The  Royal  Psalmist,  in  the  spirit  of  inspiration,  personating  the  Church  of  the  redeemed  in  every  age,  and  more  especially  under  its  last  and  most  perfect  dispensation,  here  offers  up  a  sublime  prayer  for  its  inward  prosperity,  and  outward  universal  extension.’

God  gives  us  some  flexibility  in  doing  this,  in  that  we  are  to  become  all  things  to  all  people  that  we  might  save  some  (1 Cor.9:22).  Some,  however,  have  combined  this  with  the  evangelistic  commission  to  the  point  where  the  unbelieving  world  almost  dictates  what  takes  place  in  the  church  buildings  on  Sunday.  A  better  and  more  biblical  approach  would  seem  to  be  that  the  Church  as  it  meets  ought  to  desire  three  things:  to  glorify  God,  to  build  up  Christians,  and  to  evangelize  unbelievers.  These  three  aims  need  to  be  kept  together.  As  Scripture  says  in  another  context,  a  threefold  cord  is  not  quickly  broken  (Eccles.4:12).

Go read! Shaun Willcock, Bible Based Ministries

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Bringing a Feather Duster to a Gun Fight

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