“Who Broke My Church?”

A post popped up on Facebook thanking those who pre-ordered a #1 best seller with the above title. How books become best sellers because of pre-orders is beyond me. Maybe the author is popular. I had never heard of this author until this ‘suggested’ post pepped un on FB. So I looked him up. He is also known as The Church Doctor and has published a lot of books with catchy titles. He has an educational background that includes a Ph.D. from the Lutheran School of Theology at Chicago, and a D.Min degree from Fuller Theological Seminary, Pasadena, California. He is the author of 30 books on the subject of church health, vitality, and the effectiveness of the church. The book’s full title is: Who Broke My Church?: 7 Strategies that Change Everything.

At a glance, I would say that he probably has some good things to say. I really don’t know since I have not read his books. Therefore this post is NOT a book review. The title caught my attention.

When I saw the question ‘Who broke my church?’ My immediate thought was “If the church IS broken, we who profess Christ broke it!” You are probably wondering why I say that, so I’ll tell you.

First of all, I want to say that the true church, Jesus’ church will NEVER break because Jesus said “I will build my church and the gates of hell will NEVER prevail against it. That begs the question, “Which church is Dr. Hunt talking about?” I don’t know since I haven’t read the book, but I can say it might be the church that man builds. It is that church to which I refer. Depending on what constitutes a ‘broken’ church, a church can break apart in many ways. And it is we who profess Christ who break it! While I will leave you, the reader, to speculate on specific ways it it broken (we are great speculators since we always have opinions)’ I would like to take it up a notch to something that seems to have happened over at least the years that drives many, if not most of the ‘brokenness’ in today’s church.

In a nutshell, today’s church has become ‘man’ centered instead of ‘God’ centered, and It is men who caused the shift, not God. Therefore, as I said before, if it’s broken, WE broke it. The answer is in the question. . .

If it’s YOUR (man’s) broken church, you (men) broke it!


NOTE: The above short rant is in no way critical of the referenced book but merely an old guy’s opinion.

Sermons and Pep Rallies

Has anyone else noticed the similarities between some of today’s ‘sermons’ and high school pep rallies, or am I just nuts?

Remember those pep rallies in which we were told to say/repeat stuff at the command of whoever was leading it? 

I jst love stened to yet another sermon/talk delivered at a pupular megachurch in which the folks in the pews/theater,seats are being told now and again ‘everyone say’ or ‘can you say’ something (you fill it in).

Regretably, none of these instances has anything to do with scripture. No one is collectively reading scripture or reciting an inportant creed. They are just being told to repeat or say something the speaker has chosen for them., just like at the high school peprallies I remember.

Sad, really sad.

Food for thought on a Sunday morning.

“Feed My Sheep”‘

15 When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord; you know that I love you.” He said to him, “Feed my lambs.” 16 He said to him a second time, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” He said to him, “Yes, Lord; you know that I love you.” He said to him, “Tend my sheep.” 17 He said to him the third time, “Simon, son of John, do you love me?” Peter was grieved because he said to him the third time, “Do you love me?” and he said to him, “Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you.” Jesus said to him, “Feed my sheep”.

John 21:15-17 (ESV)

We know with the story:

7 of Jesus’ Disciples had returned to their previous occupation of fishing (for real fish instead of men), had fished all night and caught nothing. A man (Jesus) on the shore and called out to them and told them to toss their net on the right side of the boat instead of the left, which had not resulted in a single minnow, much less any fish. They obeyed and had such a haul they couldn’t get all the fish into their boat.

Once ashore, the man who had called out to them already had a good breakfast going and invited them to join him. It was then that they recognized their Lord. After a hearty breakfast Jesus took the opportunity to Peter three times, “Do you love me?” Naturally Peter answered in the affirmative all three times, and even might have wondered why Jesus asked so many times! We are not told. We are given Jesus’ direction to Peter after each answer:

“Feed my lambs.”

“Tend my sheep.”

“Feed my sheep.”

You might say that Jesus told Peter to become a sheep herder! He told him to take care of sheep, young ones and older ones. Has that ever happened to you? Read a story many times and suddenly something literally jumps out at you?

First of all Jesus said “Feed MY sheep. Those needing care and nurture belong to Christ, not to Peter, not a particular group of believers, but to Jesus himself! Pastors, Sunday school teachers, Bible study leaders, you are to care for JESUS property! That knowledge should give you great pause, should it not?

Secondly, Jesus told Peter to “Feed my SHEEP, tending them and nurturing them to maturity. That should tell us in no uncertain terms the purpose of the church, Christ’s church, not yours. The mission of the church is the care and feeding of the sheep of God. Should ‘goats’ be invited and welcome in our churches? By all means! The main reason the church exists however, is for the ‘sheep of God’, not the’ goats of the world’.

I listened to one popular megachurch pastor tell his congregation one Sunday morning “This is the last Sunday this church is about YOU!” No kidding. While most of today’s so called ‘pastors’ won’t go quite that far, they ‘manage’ their churches with the same mindset, offering all sorts of ‘worldly’ enticements to make following Jesus a really cool/hip thing to do. But listen to what Jesus said to his disciples near the very end of his earthly ministry:

“If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it hated you.” (John 15:18)

The ‘world’ in Jesus’ time hated him and the world in our time will hate us when we stand for the true gospel that Christ came to save men from their sin, not to fulfill their wildest dreams.

Then we have the Apostle Paul who, by his own admission, preached nothing but Christ crucified for the sins of men:

“For we (gospel messengers) are the aroma of Christ to God among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing, to one a fragrance from death to death, to the other a fragrance from life to life.” (2 Cor: 15-16)

In other words, the aroma of Christ is sweet to the ‘sheep of God’ but that same aroma of Christ smells like death and destruction to the ‘goats of the world’.

So why do we do what we do? We try to make Christ and his gospel smell sweet to the stony hearted unbeliever to get them through the doors and then tell them that Christ died for their self-fulfillment rather than for their sin. After all, we know that if we start talking about sin the ‘bait and switch’ will be on and oh so obvious to the goats you lured through the church doors. Unless God is doing a supernatural ‘heart work’, they’re walking and they ain’t coming back any time soon!

What’s the answer to this mess? Whether it’s a church setting or personal evangelism, it’s really quite simple.

1. Pray that God open hearts to hear the true gospel.

2. Preach the true gospel.

3. Leave the ‘saving’ to God.

The Church’s Chief End

An Article by Peter Barnes, From The Banner of Truth

There  is  much  debate  in  the  modern  church  about  what  exactly  is  her  mission.  Often  the  answer  that  is  given  is  not  so  much  wrong  as  lop-sided,  and  exaggerated  implications  and  conclusions  are  drawn  from  that.  There  are  probably  three  main  views:  the  Church  exists  to  glorify  God;  the  Church  exists  to  build  up  the  saints;  and  the  Church  exists  for  mission,  to  evangelize  the  world.  These  three  views  should  not  be  played  off  against  one  another,  and  a  grasp  of  each  one  will  prevent  us  from  misinterpreting  any  one  of  them.

The  Church’s  first  task,  surely,  is  to  glorify  God.  Paul  says  that  ‘whether  you  eat  or  drink,  or  whatever  you  do,  do  all  to  the  glory  of  God’  (1 Cor.10:31).  Earlier  in  1 Corinthians,  Paul  had  said,  in  the  context  of  sexual  ethics,  that  we  are  to  glorify  God  in  our  bodies  (1 Cor.6:20).  The  unbeliever  is  meant  to  see  the  good  deeds  of  the  Christian  and  go  on  to  glorify  God  (1 Pet.2:12).  The  Psalmist  tells  us  of  God’s  attributes  and  character  in  such  a  way  that  we  are  meant  to  glorify  and  worship  our  creator  and  Lord:  ‘Your  righteousness,  O  God,  reaches  the  high  heavens. You  who  have  done  great  things,  O  God,  who  is  like  You?’  (Ps.71:19)

In  fact,  ‘Great  is  the  Lord,  and  greatly  to  be  praised,  and  His  greatness  is  unsearchable’  (Psalm 145:3).  This  is  to  be  reflected  in  our  meetings  together.  They  are  not  just  to  be  where  we  are  encouraged  or  learn  something  that  is  handy  for  daily  living.  The  priority  is  not  that  we  ‘get  something’  out  of  the  service.  Rather,  it  is  that  God  is  glorified  with  true  adoration  and  praise.  Paul  holds  out  the  hope  that  an  unbeliever  or  outsider  might  enter  the  meeting,  and  be  convicted  and  called to  account.  The  secrets  of  his  heart  are disclosed,  and  so,  falling  on  his  face,  he  will  worship  God  and  declare  that  He  is  present  (1 Cor.14:24-25).  Fellowship  is  to  be  found  amongst  Christians,  yes,  but  also  with  the  Father  and  the  Son,  Jesus  Christ  (1 John 1:3).  This  takes  us  out  of  ourselves  when  we  pray,  we  hear  the  Word  of  God,  and  we  sing  His  praises.  We  are  meant  to  be  glorifying  God  more  than  satisfying  our  needs.  There  is  an  ever-present  danger  that  expedience  or  the  desire  to  be  relevant  may  entice  us  to  follow  Nadab  and  Abihu  in  offering  up  profane  fire  to  the  Lord  (see  Lev.10:1-3).  The  Psalmist’s  perspective  must  be  a  constant  corrective:  ‘Not  to  us,  O  Lord,  not  to  us,  but  to  Your  name  give  glory,  for  the  sake  of  Your  steadfast  love  and  Your  faithfulness’  (Ps.115:1).

The  Church’s  second  task  is  to  edify  the  saints.  Dietrich  Bonhoeffer  declared  that  ‘The  essence  of  the  church  is  not  to  practice  theology  but  to  believe  and  obey  the  word  of  God.’  Christopher  Ash  interprets  Bonhoeffer  to  mean  that  the  Church’s  task  is  to  build  itself  up  by  the  Word  of  God.  In  Ash’s  words:  ‘We  reach  the  world  by  preaching  to  the  church.’  Certainly,  the  New  Testament  places  much  emphasis  on  the  spiritual  growth  of  those  who  are  Christians.  For  example,  in  the  epistles  at  least,  Paul  prays  more  frequently  for  the  sanctification  of  those  who  are  professing  Christians  than  he  does  for  the  conversion  of  those  who  are  not  (e.g.  Eph.1:15-23;  3:14-21;  Phil.1:3-11;  Col.1:9-12;  2 Thess.1:3).  In  keeping  with  this  approach,  Paul  was  concerned  that  all  Christians  would  see  the  progress  in  Timothy  (1 Tim.4:15).

In  Jeremiah’s  day,  God  promised  a  repentant  people:  ‘I  will  give  you  shepherds  after  My  own  heart,  who  will  feed  you  with  knowledge  and understanding’  (Jer.3:15).  Jesus   told  a  restored  Peter  that  his  task  was  to  feed  the  sheep  (John 21:15-17).  Part  of  meeting  together  is  to  stir  up  one  another  to  love  and  good  works  (Heb.10:24-25).  Christ  gives  gifts  to  His  people  in  order  ‘to  equip  the  saints  for  the  work  of  ministry,  for  building  up  the  body  of  Christ’  (Eph.4:12).

The  third  task  is  to  evangelize  the  world.  In  1839  Alexander  Duff  preached  at  the  ordination  service  of  Thomas  Smith,  who  was  leaving  for  work  in  India,  from  where  Duff  had  just  come  and  to  where  he  was  just  returning.  The  sermon  was  published  with  the  title  ‘Missions  the  Chief  End  of  the  Christian  Church’.  It  was  based  on  Psalm  67:1-2  (which  the  published  edition  mistakenly  identified  as  Psalm 47:1-2):  ‘God  be  merciful  unto  us,  and  bless  us;  and  cause  his  face  to  shine  upon  us.  That  thy  way  may  be  known  upon  earth,  thy  saving  health  among  all  nations.’  Duff’s  opening  sentence  was:  ‘The  Royal  Psalmist,  in  the  spirit  of  inspiration,  personating  the  Church  of  the  redeemed  in  every  age,  and  more  especially  under  its  last  and  most  perfect  dispensation,  here  offers  up  a  sublime  prayer  for  its  inward  prosperity,  and  outward  universal  extension.’

God  gives  us  some  flexibility  in  doing  this,  in  that  we  are  to  become  all  things  to  all  people  that  we  might  save  some  (1 Cor.9:22).  Some,  however,  have  combined  this  with  the  evangelistic  commission  to  the  point  where  the  unbelieving  world  almost  dictates  what  takes  place  in  the  church  buildings  on  Sunday.  A  better  and  more  biblical  approach  would  seem  to  be  that  the  Church  as  it  meets  ought  to  desire  three  things:  to  glorify  God,  to  build  up  Christians,  and  to  evangelize  unbelievers.  These  three  aims  need  to  be  kept  together.  As  Scripture  says  in  another  context,  a  threefold  cord  is  not  quickly  broken  (Eccles.4:12).

Are NON-denominational churches really denominations unto themselves?

Let’s start with a definition from the Oxford Dictionary:



1.     a recognized autonomous branch of the Christian Church.synonyms: religious group · sect cult · movement · body · branch · 

2.     the face value of a banknote, coin, or postage stamp: “a hundred dollars or so, in small denominations” synonyms: value · unit · size

3.     Formal:a name or designation, especially one serving to classify a set of things


1.     Are non-denominational churches autonomous? Are they recognized?

2.     They are not a bank note.

3.     Does ‘non-denominational’ classify a ‘set’ of things (churches)?

Sounds rather silly, does it not? As well it might. Nondenominational churches tend to be autonomous, but so do churches within denominations, such as some independent Baptist churches. There is also ‘brand’ recognition, as a particular ‘set’ of churches.

My friend Ed would probably laugh at that, since he wears the ‘nondenominational’ badge quite proudly. And after all, isn’t it good to take a firm stand on something? I guess that depends. Should we stand on shaky ground? To answer that let’s look at what one nondenominational churches say about itself.

There is one particular nondenominational online organization called ‘The Interactive Bible’ (www.bible.ca) that just might be Ed’s church. The site uses ‘we’ a lot and so does Ed. Many of what is taught on site could have been written by my friend Ed.

This nondenominational church has a lot to say about itself at their ‘About Us’ page concerning their view of the Bible, way of life, doctrine, worship, organization, and how they are different than modern churches.

The last section, how they are different than modern churches, concludes with an invitation of sorts:

“You too can be just a Christian and serve God without belonging to any denomination bound by no (sic) denominational laws or obligations. If such freedom appeals to you, please visit us!”

Bad grammar aside (they should have left out “no” in front of denominational), they are offering “freedom” from human authority outside of yourself and your own interpretation of the Bible, while claiming to be a true New Testament church. I guess they don’t read the portions of the New Testament concerning church structure, organization, leadership, and things like church discipline.

What I find most interesting is all of the doctrine taught at some of their Web pages. Much is taught there, some of which will be discussed on another post or two. For now. . .

Yes, Virginia, NON-denominational churches ARE denominations unto themselves!

Why Evangelicals and Catholics Cannot be “Together” by Jordan Standridge

As the evangelical world in America seems rather excited about the Pope’s visit, I can’t help but remember how I felt when I discovered the Evangelicals and Catholics Together document (nf95i1-warrenpope-300x225ECT).

In 1995 the unthinkable happened. Well known evangelical pastors signed a document in which they joined themselves with Catholic priests and Philosophers, in an ecumenical fashion in order to promote the agreements over the disagreements that have plagued Protestants and Catholics for centuries dating back to the greats: Calvin, Luther, Zwingli and Knox. They agreed to no longer “proselytize” each other, agreeing that Catholics are indeed brothers, and sisters in Christ.

This article was successful in its endeavor. The vast majority of Christians in America do not evangelize Catholics. Someone like me who has shed many tears over the deception of the Roman Catholic Church is seen as hateful. I totally understand the desire to believe people are saved. I also desperately want Roman Catholics to go to heaven, but we can’t let our desire for people to be saved or our desire to please men, lead us to cheer them on as they run towards hell. We must love them.

When I first found out about the ECT, I was shocked. I was fresh off the boat and never in a million years did I imagine such confusion over what seemed to be such a clear issue to me and any Italian believer. Most evangelical churches in Italy, many of which we would never step foot into, recognize this truth.

I wondered why there was such confusion in America, and I concluded that it must come down to the Easy-Belivism mentality. In America people believe that all you have to say is, “Jesus come into my heart”, and you are saved, and it doesn’t matter what you actually believe. The devil loves to comes as an angel of light.  He loves to be a wolf in sheep’s clothing, and as Spurgeon said, he has created a masterpiece with the Roman Catholic Church. Here are some of the reasons protestants and Roman Catholics will never agree (based on the RCC’s teaching) and why ultimately a Born again Christian who attends a Roman Catholic Church must come out and join God’s true Church.


It is clear therefore that, in the supremely wise arrangement of God, sacred Tradition, Sacred Scripture, and the magisterum of the Church are so connected and associated that one of them cannot stand without the others. Working together, each in their own way, under the action of the Holy Spirit, they all contribute affectively to the salvation of souls. – Catechism of the Catholic Church 95

Picture a company with three owners. They walk into a room they all have the same power. That’s what this is like in the RCC.
And although Scripture should trump any false interpretation in the RCC, the Pope and his cardinals, as well as tradition have undermined Scripture for centuries. God has not given man the right to alter His word, The Holy Spirit is in charge of illuminating the mind of His children and cause them to understand the truth. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 tells us clearly that scripture is all we need to live a life that glorifies our Creator.

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The Church does not know of any means other than Baptism that assures entry into eternal beatitude – C of the C C 1257

Baptism…makes the neophyte “a new creature” an adopted son of God – C of the C C 1265

By baptism all sins are forgiven, original sin and all personal sins, as well as all punishment for sin – C of the C C 1263

The only way to heaven in the Roman Catholic Church is through Baptism. Baptism cannot save anyone, especially a newborn. A baby cannot have faith. A baby cannot confess Jesus as Lord, he cannot believe the resurrection. Instead each human being at some point in their life must repent of their sin and trust in Jesus as savior and Lord (Romans 10:9).


I wrote about this last week. In summary a system that is works-based will always minimize sin. Sin will be easily overcome and in Roman Catholicism it is overcome through confession.

Salvation is found in the Roman Catholic Church alone

OUTSIDE THE CHURCH THERE IS NO SALVATION, – …it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body: – Basing itself on Scripture and Tradition, the Council teaches that the Church, a pilgrim now on earth, is necessary for salvation. C of the C C 846

It is in the Church that the fullness of the means of salvation has been deposited. C of the C C 824

This language holds people captive and forces people to trust in an institution rather than a savior. It brings fear in the hearts of those who question its veracity, and ultimately it causes a barrier between attenders and the hearing of the true saving gospel.

The Mass

As often as the sacrifice of the Cross by which our Pasch has been sacrificed is celebrated on the altar, the work of our redemption is carried out. C of the C C 1364

In this divine sacrifice which is celebrated in the Mass, the same Christ who offered himself once in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross is contained and is offered in an unbloody manner. C of the C C 1367

The Bible Says that Christ Died Once and For all (1 Peter 3:18). He does not need to continue dying like the animals in the Old Testament sacrificial system. He is the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. The only reason he would need to continue dying would be if we needed our sins re-forgiven each week, or if we were trying to earn our salvation. In the Roman Catholic Church Jesus Christ is still on the cross and every week the Father crushes Him over and over again.

Eternal Life

The first commandment is also concerned with the sins against hope, namely, despair and presumption. C of the C C 2091

Presumption… hoping to obtain his forgiveness without conversion and glory without merit C of the C C 2092

Moved by the Holy Spirit and by charity we can then merit for ourselves and for others the graces needed for our sanctification C of the C C 2010

Ultimately, as we see so clearly written by their own fingers, they believe that you must merit God’s forgiveness. It is not a free gift (Eph. 2:8-9). It is something that you must earn, and anyone who says they are on their way to heaven without having earned it over the course of many years, is presumptuous and disillusioned.

The Bible says in 1 John 5:13, “I have written these things so that you may know that you have eternal life”. It’s not something we must earn but it is a free gift. And we can have confidence in this life that we will be with Him the moment we die.

Our heart goes out to people stuck in this false system. Our desire is not to condemn but to bring the truth to these people. Sometimes you have to let people know they are lost before showing them how they can be found. If you wish to learn more about how to evangelize Roman Catholics here are 10 books I have benefited from to help you do just that.

The Pope or Christ – Who is the Church’s Head?

The fanfare is all over. The speeches to the U.S. Congress and to the U.N.have been given. The Mass was celebrated at Madison Square Garden and in Philadelphia with hundreds of thousands. And now Pope Francis is back at the Vatican after his historical visit to the U.S.

But the question that I would like to consider and that must be asked is: Who is the real Head of the Church – The Pope or Christ?

In his epistle to the Colossians where he highlights the supremacy of Christ, the apostle Paul categorically states in Scripture that Christ is the Head of the Church.

“And he is the head of the body, the church.”

Colossians 1:18

Who is the “he” referring to?

It is referring to the one in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.(Colossians 1:14)

It is referring to the one who is the image of the invisible God.(Colossians 1:15)

It is referring to the one who is the Creator and Sustainer of the universe.(Colossians 1:16-17)

It is referring to the one in whom all the fulness of God was pleased to dwell(Colossians 1:19)

It is referring to the one through whom there is reconciliation with God by His death(Colossians 1:20-22)

It is referring to God’s beloved Son!(Colossians 1:13)

Throughout church history, God raised up men to remind us once again that Christ, not the pope, is the head of the church. One such man was Martin Luther.

“I am persuaded that if at this time, St. Peter, in person, should preach all the articles of Holy Scripture, and only deny the pope’s authority, power, and primacy, and say, that the pope is not the head of all Christendom, they would cause him to be hanged.”

Martin Luther(Table Talk)

Another such man was Charles Spurgeon, who declared unequivocally the headship of Christ over His Church in a sermon entitled “The Head of the Church.”

“Of all the dreams whatever deluded men and probably of all blasphemies that were ever uttered, that has never been one which is more absurd and which is more fruitful in all manner of mischief than the idea that the Bishop of Rome can be the head of the church of Jesus Christ. No, these popes die and how could the church live if its head were dead? The true Head ever lives and the church ever liveth in Him.”

Charles Spurgeon

In yet another sermon entitled “Jesus is Lord”, Spurgeon drives the stake home in answering the question of who is the real head of the church.

“It is awful blasphemy for any man on earth to call himself Christ’s vicar and the head of the church, and it is a usurpation of the crown rights of King Jesus for any king or queen to be called the head of the church, for the true Church of Jesus Christ can have no head but Jesus Christ Himself.

Charles Spurgeon

Jesus Christ is the true Head of the Church because it is Christ Himself who loved the Church and gave Himself for her(Ephesians 5:25) Jesus Christ is the true Head of the Church not only because of his loving substitutionary atonement, but also because of His resurrection, conquering death, and because of His exaltation to the right hand of the Father, as head over all!

“that he worked in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly places, 21 far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and above every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. 22 And he put all things under his feet and gave him as head over all things to the church, 23 which is his body, the fullness of him who fills all in all.”

Ephesians 1:20-23


About the Author: Hariton Deligiannides

Pastor Hariton Deligiannides is the head of the elder board at Bethlehem Bible Church in West Boylston. Born in Greece, Hariton has a love for his culture and language. But his greatest love is the Lord Jesus Christ and serving Him. Married to Meta in 1996, they have 3 children, Isabella, Elizabeth and Zachary. Saved in 1985, Hariton attended Bethlehem Bible Church during his college days at WPI. He graduated Dallas Theological Seminary in 1992. He was on staff with the Navigators from 1993 to 2001, ministering in NY city. Then in 2001 he moved to Boston to church plant with the Southern Baptists. He was ordained to gospel ministry on June 21, 2003. He pastored Compass Community Church from 2001 to 2010. He joined Bethlehem Bible Church in 2010. Hariton‘s passions are theology, expository preaching and discipling men.

Belonging Before Believing?

“Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.” – Acts 2:46-47

I’m asking a question. An article I read this morning in a popular outreach website didn’t ask the question, but made it a statement and seemed to be promoting a ‘church’ called “Inversion Community Church” As the article explained the church challenges “this idea that you have to believe before you belong,” he (the Pastor) says. “You can actually belong before you believe. That’s what we’re doing.”

I visited the website and Facebook page of the church to learn more about it, but I’m intentionally not going there in this post. If you are interested, you can easily find both from the source article link at the bottom of this post.I’m just asking questions. What it really comes down to is the definition of a ‘church.

“The word “church” comes from the Greek word ekklesia which is defined as “an assembly” or “called-out ones.” The root meaning of “church” is not that of a building, but of people. It is ironic that when you ask people what church they attend, they usually identify a building. Romans 16:5 says “… greet the church that is in their house.” Paul refers to the church in their house—not a church building, but a body of believers.” (GotQuestions.org). Other good sources also define church the same way, focusing on the fact that the church is not a ‘building’ but a ‘’body of believers.

While it might be permitted to belong to an organization calling itself a church, is it possible to ‘belong’ to the body of ‘called-out believers’ if one has not yet believed? It sounds like a ridiculous question, does it not? The terms ‘counterintuitive’ and ‘oxymoron’ come to mind.

So WHY even consider such a concept as ‘belonging before believing’, much less advertise it?  I can think of some reasons, but since they don’t speak well of the idea at all, I’ll keep my big mouth shut. Like I said, I’m just asking the question. I hope others would also consider the question and if necessary.

The last question I have is of the hypothetical variety. IF the idea of belonging to the church before believing isn’t biblical sound, or contradicts the NT definition of ‘church’, what should be our response? My immediate response after reading the article this morning was to ask a few questions via a blog post to get us thinking and maybe searching the scriptures. Perhaps that’s enough for the time being. J

I’d love to hear others’ thoughts concerning the ‘belonging before believing’ paradigm! Do I need a sanity check?

A. D. The Degradation Continues – Episode 10

This episode, titled ‘Brothers in Arms’ was true to the ‘spirit’ of the previous episodes, in that it was filled with mostly speculative accounts and at time outright falsehoods, probably in an attempt to get viewers interested in the account of the growth of the Christian church provided for us in the book of Acts. It seems to have been taken from Acts, Chapters 8 and 9. .

In its defense, It is commendable that there is an account of young women serving talking about Jesus and one of them (Tabitha) being led to believe in Jesus by another (Joanna). Not an account in the book of Acts, but nice to see.

We are introduced to James The Just (Jesus’ brother) early on in the episode, in a scene that shows a sleeping James having a dream about his boyhood in which he saw the boy Jesus teaching in the Synagogue , a story recorded in Luke, Chapter 2 (Jesus teaching in the synagogue when he was 12 years old). The dream account in A.D., as well as the other scenes including James are for the most part, are foreign to scripture.

We are also introduced to the Ethiopian eunuch, an actually character recorded in Acts, Chapter 8. The Acts account is of course much shorter than all of the drama surrounding him in A.D. In the Acts 8:26 – 40 account we are told that he was returning to his home country after having visited Jerusalem to worship when Phillip found him reading from the prophet Isaiah, explained the scriptures to him and subsequently baptized him. The A.D. episode provides us with all sorts of extra biblical information concerning the Ethiopian and his visit to Jerusalem that is also foreign to scripture.

We see Simon the Zealot, still fearful of Saul, contacting an old friend, a leader of the Jewish zealots who hated Rome, and ending up in a conspiracy to have Saul killed at the behest of Leah, Caiaphas’ wife, who felt that her husband was too ‘chicken’ to do what needed to be done. Again, not in the biblical record.

Of course we also are treated to more about Saul, his release from prison, Caiaphas attempt to get him to return to his former Jewish religion, his interaction with the disciples, and his finally departing Jerusalem. Saul again comes across as a bit arrogant in his dealings with the disciples again, seemingly ‘schooling’ them again concerning their mission as Jesus’ disciples. As in the last episode, he seems a bit arrogant and compassionless when it comes to the disciples. In a scene that has him preaching in the streets of Jerusalem, he tells his audience that Jesus offers a better life (Joel Osteen, anyone) and freedom from Roman tyranny We also hear bits and pieces of some of Paul’s teachings recorded in his other writings, but not the message that “Christ died for our sins”.

At the end of the episode Paul is departing Jerusalem, sent off (kicked out) by Peter, James having been deemed by James a danger to himself and other believers in Jerusalem. Nevertheless, Peter gives him a big hug at the ‘send off’ and tells him God has a bigger plan for him. In Acts 9, Saul was taken to Caesarea and sent to Tarsus because some of the Hellenists, against whom he had spoken and disputed, wanted to kill him.

In following A.D. I’ve also asked believers with whom I work or associate what they thought of the series and few have watched it, mostly due to so much being added to the biblical account. They seem to feel that being true to scripture is significant when dealing with the Bible. On the other hand, there is a host of leaders of some of today’s most notable ministries that really love the show. I’m not going to name names, but if you’re interested go here, scroll down and click the question “What are leaders saying about A.D. The Bible Continues?”. You can even get an official A.D. The Bible Continues ‘Church Kit’.

I’ll let you be the judge of that. And again, if there is a review of the latest episode over at Issues, Etc., I will post the link. J

Expository Preaching: Cheating & Easy?

At least that is what Andy Stanley said in a recent interviewclip_image002
when asked what he thought about preaching verse by verse through books of the Bible. That is his first of two reasons why he does not believe in expository preaching.

It is obvious that Andy Stanley has never preached verse by verse through any book of the Bible because if he had, he would never make that statement. It is a challenge to give the true and real meaning of the text as intended by the author and as understood by the original recipients when you have to consider such things as historical background, the meanings of the original languages, the literary context, etc.

What is cheating because it is easy is what Andy engages in, topical sermons where you find verses to hang on your petty human thinking so that you meet the “felt needs” of people.

“In what more resembles “sermonettes for Christianettes”, casual discourses are becoming increasingly focused on massaging “felt needs” rather than allowing the biblical text to expose real needs.” – Steve Lawson(Famine in the Land)

Furthermore Andy does not believe in verse by verse preaching because that is not how you grow people. Andy is right. Ok now, just breathe for a moment and recuperate from what you just read. Andy is right in that simply preaching the Word is not how any person grows people. If you want to grow people, then follow Andy’s pattern. But if you want God to grow people, follow the pattern of the early church.

So how did the early church grow?

Answer: The conviction of the Holy Spirit and the sovereign call of God:

“Now when they heard this they were cut to the heart, and said to Peter and the rest of the apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?” And Peter said to them, “Repent and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. For the promise is for you and for your children and for all who are far off, everyone whom the Lord our God calls to himself.” And with many other words he bore witness and continued to exhort them, saying, “Save yourselves from this crooked generation.” So those who received his word were baptized, and there were added that day about three thousand souls.” – Acts 2:37–41

Answer: Simply the Lord:

And the Lord added to their number day by day those who were being saved.” – Acts 2:47

Answer: The Word of God

“But many of those who had heard the word believed, and the number of the men came to about five thousand.” – Acts 4:4

“And the word of God continued to increase, and the number of the disciples multiplied greatly in Jerusalem, and a great many of the priests became obedient to the faith.” – Acts 6:7

And why did the word of God continue to increase?

“And the twelve summoned the full number of the disciples and said, “It is not right that we should give up preaching the word of God to serve tables. 3 Therefore, brothers, pick out from among you seven men of good repute, full of the Spirit and of wisdom, whom we will appoint to this duty. 4 But we will devote ourselves to prayer and to the ministry of the word.” – Acts 6:2-4

Andy Stanley must consider himself above the early apostles who considered it “not right” to give up preaching the Word. Instead of devoting himself to the ministry of the Word like the early apostles, Andy has devoted himself to “growing people” through marketing the seeker-sensitive way.

It would behoove Andy Stanley, and anyone else who is not committed to expounding the Scripture verse by verse, to heed the following prophetic words!

“To an alarming extent the glory is departing from the pulpit. The basic reason for this gloomy condition is obvious. That which imparts the glory has been taken away from the center of so much of our modern preaching and placed on the periphery. The Word of God has been denied the throne and given a subordinate place. Where such exposition and authoritative declaration of the Word of God are abandoned, Ichabod, the glory has departed, must be written over the preacher and over the pulpit from which he preaches.” – Merrill Unger


HT: No Compromise Radio