Was Christ a Calvinist?

“My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.” John 10:27-29

No need to answer, unless of course you would like to compare the above passage of scripture against the tenets of Calvinism and explain your ‘yes/no’ thoughts.

6 responses to “Was Christ a Calvinist?

  1. Note that the Father had them before the Son did.  The Father THEN gave them to the Son.  That shows that the Jews are the topic in that verse.  The Jews were already followers of God.

    See John 4, that the Jews (plural) KNOW what they worship, for salvation is of the Jews.  Salvation is not of the Gentiles.  Gentiles, in this case, the Samaritan, did not know what they worship. 

    Lost sheep can remain lost if they want to be lost:

    Matthew 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel

    Matthew 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

    So they went to the Lost Sheep, and even with the lost sheep, if they did not receive them, they were to dust their feet, and move on, so that the lost sheep will be remaining as lost sheep.

    Everyone of the House of Israel are the Sheep…LOST.  Will all of the sheep be found?  Only if they WANT TO BE FOUND.  Sheep wander off based on their own free will.  How do you think they get lost to begin with?  Free will.  Either that, or the Shepherd wasn’t doing his job at maintaining his own sheep.

    Ed

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    • So there are Jews that the Father gave to the Son, that will all come to the Son, whom will never be cast out? So then Christ was ‘Calvinistic’ but only to Jews? ALL that the father gives to the Son come to the Son never to be cast out. They receive eternal live NEVER perish. Are Jews given, but Gentiles not ‘given’? And what about the ‘other sheep’ in verse 16? Who are they? Don’t they fall into the same class of those ‘given’ to the Son? The text tells me that there are Jewish ‘sheep’ and non-Jewish sheep that are part of ‘one flock’. Also, there are no ‘free-will’ caveats in the entire text of John 10. The text on its own seems to indicate that Christ might have been a pre-Calvin ‘Calvinist’.

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  2. Psalm 119:176 I have gone astray like a lost sheep; seek thy servant; for I do not forget thy commandments.

    This verse shows that at one time, he was not a lost sheep.  He went astray “LIKE” a lost sheep.  He is the one who chose to be lost.  Now, the shephard must seek that which went astray.

    Isaiah 53:6 All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the Lord hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.

    Jeremiah 50:6 My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace.

    Note:  At one time, they knew their restingplace, because they FORGOT their restingplace.

    1 Peter 2:25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.

    Note:  Lost sheep who went astray “RETURNED”, showing that at one time, they were not lost prior to going astray. 

    Ed

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